RPCS3 on laptops
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leaderface
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11-10-2019, 02:00 PM -
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Hi there!: new on this forum and interested on emulating old games in general.
I´m one of those who owned an Amiga.... Even a ZX81 before of that.
Then entered the PCs with a pentium 100, 3DFX, etc.... You know....

So: with most of the industry efforts put in the laptop sector and the continued optimization of the emulator, maybe it´s time again to ask if the new  Ice Lake laptops coming at the end of the year will be able to run the emulator.
Maybe the new mobile Ryzen2 in the 2020 will be a safer bet?.....
I´m now almost a laptop user and searching for an upgrade.
I mean a bare Ice Lake with the "new" integrated Iris Pro GPU.
And yes, I´ve read all that stuff about how interesting is to own a hi Mhz CPU, but I´m sure the optimization should fix that with the time. I´m not trying to game at 4K, etc. (Just to try the emulator and see the evolution).

It would be great to extend the RPCS3 users base as much as posible, and I have read that Intel graphics have problems suporting Vulkan. And it´s a shame becouse it seems that graphic power is not he bottleneck of the emulator, and so, the integrated GPUs should be enough.


So: where are we now with this emulator version?. Are we forced to own a dedicated graphic card by now?

Thanks! Big Grin
Ani
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11-11-2019, 12:38 AM -
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Intel iGPUs are not supported at all, they may or not work properly.
If you want to use a laptop, make sure it doesn't have a low-power chip and that it has a dedicated GPU.
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leaderface
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11-11-2019, 08:59 PM -
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I´ve seen this thread: "https://forums.rpcs3.net/thread-197673-page-2.html?highlight=missing+vulkan+with+intel+hd+graphics" and thought the problem with Vulkan on Intel IGPs were solved.
I just want to test the state of the simulator.
Now I know I must build a desktop rig if I want to use it seriously. That is another thing I´m planning. But I wanted to test it in a ultrabook anyway. (I don´t know if the mobiles Ryzen coming in a few months will be better). They surely will come with a more compatible integrated Vega or Navi graphs (no one seems to Know).
But I´m pretty sure the Ice Lake Ultrabooks are a good buy right now for general purpose and long battery life. (And for PCSX2 and backwards will be a good tool I think). And maybe someone will put those new AVX-512 instructions to good use in the future.
But those AAA exclusive PS3 titles...... I don´t want to miss the oportunity to play a couple of them when they get playable state. And man, I prefer not to buy a console. I´m more of a Pc guy. That´s it.
I prefer to buy a second hand BR original game and fight that road.
I´m impressed by how far the state of this emulator is going. I´have allways heard that the PS3 was to difficult to emulate. It deserves attention.
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12-03-2019, 02:06 AM -
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Hi,

I'm a newbie. I had sent an email asking this question, but I do not believe it went through (so sorry if I am asking the same question twice).

I would like to know if any current laptops would run games well on rpcs3. I have a special needs kid who is in the hospital a lot. To entertain him I usually bring a slimline ps2, games, and a portable dvd player to use as a display. A laptop would eliminate the need to lug all that stuff around. Plus you get a 15-17 inch screen as opposed to a 7 inch.

I had posted this question i think last year on a ps2 emulator forum. The guys there were real helpful in teaching me about hardware requirements. I held out though because I would like to run both ps2 and ps3 games if I pull the trigger. I have been looking mainly at the alienware m15/17, Razer Blade, and MSI GS65.

The games I would like to play if possible are the Batman games, WWE games, and games like Toy Story 3. I would really appreciate any advice on this. Thanks guys!
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12-03-2019, 03:07 PM -
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You need a laptop with a good CPU such as i7 6700HQ, i7 7700HQ, i7 8750H, i7 9750H and up.
CPU is crucial for decent performance, but note it's a laptop so it's not always going to have optimal performance.
Make sure to get a 8750H or 9750H CPU as they're 6-core as opposed to 6700HQ and 7700HQ which are 4-core.

The laptop must have a dedicated GPU of some sort, NVIDIA or AMD.
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12-06-2019, 07:01 AM -
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(12-03-2019, 03:07 PM)Ani Wrote: You need a laptop with a good CPU such as i7 6700HQ, i7 7700HQ, i7 8750H, i7 9750H and up.
CPU is crucial for decent performance, but note it's a laptop so it's not always going to have optimal performance.
Make sure to get a 8750H or 9750H CPU as they're 6-core as opposed to 6700HQ and 7700HQ which are 4-core.

The laptop must have a dedicated GPU of some sort, NVIDIA or AMD.

Thanks for the quick reply. Just seeing this now. I have a lot to learn/consider if I am going to to this. I have an old Dell xps15z (Intel Core i5 2410M Sandy Bridge) that I had loaded NES,SNES, and PCSX2 on. When I tried to run NBA Street iso on it the game was pretty much unplayable. I tried Batman Begins and it ran so-so. Because of this I didn't try running RPCS3 on it. 

I just don't want to drop $2k on a laptop that won't be able to play the games I mentioned previously. Correct me if i'm wrong, what I have gathered so far it seems like (for my needs since I am not a high end gamer Big Grin ) I don't necessarily need to go with something like an NVIDIA GeForce 2060 video card. If I go with something with an i7 8750H or better hopefully I will be able to play the ps3 games I want to play w/o issue. I haven't gone through all of the game posts in your forums yet, but at a quick read it seems like I shouldn't entertain the thought of trying to play Last Of Us on a laptop. I think my son has a little crush on Ellie lol. 

If possible, could you explain a little further the part of not always having optimal performance on a laptop? Again thanks for the response. My apologies for replying late. Really gonna have to give this some thought. If i do pull the trigger I will def let you know how it turns out.
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12-16-2019, 02:36 AM -
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Even on the best available laptops, some games may not optimally if they're too demanding, as laptop chips are quite inferior when compared to the Desktop counterparts.
You'll have to see on a game by game basis. Since those games you mentioned are not tested a lot, I don't have an idea on how demanding they are, but if they're marked as Playable chances are you'll be fine. Any issues you can just ask for help on the Support section.
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